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**Warning - dull post follows that is purely for my own purposes**
I'm currently playing with the first transcript, trying to come up with a way to record information from it about places that are mentioned and talked about. The categories are a combination of things that the env psychology literature flagged up as important in terms fo how poeple relate to space and place, stuff that seems obvious to us from a methodological point of view, and some more experimental ways to try and capture local history. At the moment I have the following categories:
| Tag |
Number of transcript, number of occurrence |
| Noise level | From transcript |
| Env descriptor | Type of area |
| Box number | 10 second chunk |
| Speech object | Thing being spoken of |
| Type | F (factory), C (consumption building - e.g. shop / pub), P(public building - e.g. church, school), D (domestic), R (road), E (environmental feature), I (infrastructure), O (other) |
| Toponymy | G (general - no specific names), D (description using names), S (specific name) |
| Genesis | P (interviewer prompted), U (unprompted) |
| Presence | Y (still there with same use), D (still there with different use), N (not there) |
| Spatial descriptor | How its spatial location is described: R (road), B (building), S (sight), N (no spatial ref) |
| Location | Where the interviewee is in relation to the thing mentioned |
| Story | P (personal), I (impersonal) / b = built form, c = city, p = people |
| Topic | |
| Preference | p (positive), n (negative) |
| Evaluation | p (positive), n (negative) |
| Place relation | d= elsewhere in digbeth, c= city centre, b= birmingham, o=other city) |
Sorry about the formatting - that happens when you import excel stuff into web text editors, but you get the picture. There's plenty of issues - for example, some places are mentioned more than once in the transcript. It's hard to get the balance between quantifiable typology and recording some qualitative aspects of the data. I have gone for a half-way house, with between 3 and 6 tags for each variable. I've also numbered the 10 second boxes in the transcripts so as to get a handle on the patterns in which places are mentioned. It may also make it easier to categorise the overall transcripts in terms of discourse type.
Phil reckons these variables can be mapped quite easily by importing into a GIS, which should produce some interesting results. It's literally spatialising discourse! Cool.
This one almost slipped through the net. Last week we were invited over to Kidderminster by Ken Harrison, head of their regen team, to discuss the possibility of doing some RG work with them. Steph came along too, in her role as our official 'handler' and to represent MADE. Having enjoyed a free lunch in the town hall and been introduced to Matt Barker (his right hand man), Karen Alexander (arts and play officer) and Amanda Hall (conservation), we rather appropriately went out for a walk.
Kiddie seemed to have three main issues. The closure of many of the large carpet factories located in the town centre seemed to have allowed for relatively low density retail developments to take their place. As a result, some of the central areas resembled out of town shopping developments, with lots of ground level car parks and no real sense of place. The second issue appeared to be the inner ring road, which not only acts as a classic concrete collar around the central area, but has broken many of the most attractive historical roads in two. Perhaps the most distressing example of this is the separation of the beautiful church from the central area. Finally, Kiddie seems to be a place with something of an identity crisis, with unenviable listings in two recent publications - Chav Towns and Crap Towns - compounding a general sense of malaise.
Having said that, Ken highlighted a number of opportunities. The town has a number of rivers running through it that could be opened up. It also has a very attractive skyline, with the towers associated with the carpet factories slightly reminiscent of Florence and rolling countryside visible all around. Some of the areas in need of regeneration have quite unique histories, and one of these, known as the Horsefair, may be perfect for a rescue geography follow up project. Traditionally populated by traveller communities, the area is now characterised by high levels of socio-economic deprivation and the familiar set of problems that generally accompany this.
Plans for the area are only just being considered, and Ken emphasised the need to get the local community involved and enhance the unique heritage of the area... he put it nicely when he said there was a need to reconnect people with the space. In terms of developing the RG methodology as an applied planning consultation tool, the Horsefair regen could be ideal. Ken and his team also seemed very keen to collaborate, which means that we could get unprecedented access to actors at all stages of the planning process. If RG is going to have an impact upon the development process this kind of upstream access is priceless.
We decided in principle that we would use Kiddie as the focus for our son / daughter of RG research proposal to the ESRC. By that time it was drinks-o-clock, so we went and enjoyed a few bevvies in Ye Olde Seven Stars.
Last Thursday we met to discuss how exactly we were going to analyse the walking interview data that Jane has managed to gather over the last 8 months. Lots of ideas have been buzzing around, mostly from the odd chat here and there, but nothing concrete had been decided. So we decided to brainstorm it, thinking of every possible thing we could analyse, and then work through them to try and discover what would actually be possible and / or desirable to do. Here's what we came up with...
Things we are attempting for the analysis
1) Time spent talking by interviewee and interviewer as against silence in walking vs. seated interviews (word count as proxy measure)
2) Scatter plot of general weather (Edgbaston weather data) as against length of interview
3) Map pauses in movement / rate of movement and pauses in speech
4) Interactions with third persons – how many, who, where, how long
5) Time and distance of interview against: gender, age, proxy for familiarity with area, lay vs. expert
6) Time and distance of interview in noisy environments
7) Sensory typology against which to measure time / distance
a. Primary distributor road, secondary distributor road, tertiary road
b. paths
c. canals
8) List environmental prompts
9) Text analysis of how much the environment acts as a prompt to discuss building or how much interviewer prompt or how much general conversation
10) Map analysis of extent to which we are
a. at
b. en route to (close)
c. en route from (close)
d. en route to (far)
e. en route from (far) … the building/phenomenon being discussed
11) Can we map this against arbitrarily defined vistas/viewpoints
12) Place discourse – speech acts revealing: preference (vs) evaluation, scale, hierarchies, informal toponymy
13) Identification of cognitive clusters across transcripts (intertextual analysis)
Looks simple enough, but there is quite a lot of work in some of these tasks. We split the work between spatial analysis (anything involving the GIS), which Phil is checking out, and the textual, which I'm working on.
When I started going through the first walking interview transcript two main difficulties became apparent. Firstly, in terms of people mentioning places or buildings, there are some issues with what counts. So for example, people may mention a factory by name, and then say in passing that there were three others on such and such street. Technically they are making a spatial reference, but in such a general way that there is little practical worth in counting it. It is a grey area.
The second issue is how best to organise the analysis. So, for example, we are starting with an excel spreadsheet that lists each 'place' mentioned in the transcript and then recording various characteristics about how, why and where the place is mentioned. But boiling down these things into analytical categories is difficult, because it is hard to know how much detail to go into. For example, is it enough to break places referred to down into buildings, environmental features and roads, or are more categories required?
As you go along grappling with these questions the actual categories also change, as it become apparent that some of the things we thought would be important aren't, or that one category actually subsumes another. The thing I have to keep reminding myself of is that this exploratory process of trial and error is exactly what a pilot project like RG is all about - it will take a while to figure out the best way to do things! Anyway, my first job tomorrow it to plough through the first transcript...
This meeting threw up some more interesting people, Nick Bird from ISIS and Pam who is an ethno-botanist. Pam used to work at the Winterbourne Botanic Gardens, and is working with none other than Jon Sadler on his OPen Air Laboratories (OPAL) project. Small world. We discussed RG and then ISIS' plans for Warwick Bar, all interspersed with more general comments on regen. As there were fewer people this time I'll endeavour to group the things people said into distinct topics...
1. Families and long-term viability
ISIS are very concerned to attract families to their developments, as this ensures long term viability of projects. The problem is that this requires all sorts of infrastructure that developers can't provide in isolation. The need for good schools is perhaps one of the most intractable, and Pam has been doing some work with them in this vein. She mentioned the work of Birmingham Futures, who have evidence that young pros would like to stay in the city centre when they have kids. The need for long term viability is driven financially by the potential for pension funds to invest in developments that are seen as a safe long-term bet. Assumedly ISIS are keenly aware of this because they are part-owned by the Igloo fund already.
2. The need for distinctive developments
The second key priority for ISIS is to create more distinctive developments. The more generic developments aren't selling currently, a trend that is exacerbated by the credit crunch. We actually discussed the kinds of things that would be useful for architects and designers to know about a place, and that RG might be able to deliver. He was interested in local knowledge, like little stories about what buildings and what aspects of buildings matter, little routes that are used, special places and so forth. Julia mentioned the development in Manchester that was branded and marketed around a rare water plant that was found on the site.
3. Use of emotional mapping
This is the stuff that Phil talks about in the last entry on the blog, where we sorted Steph out with a crude emotional sensor and let her loose in Eastside with a GPS. The specifics have been covered, but it is worth noting how ISIS responded to the possibilities. Nick could see the utility of being able to turn qualitative data into quantitative, and it was felt that if enough walks could be amalgamated to identify places that are generally liked or disliked then it would be a powerful tool to use to persuade planners to do things. He mentioned the need to persuade them to spruce up Fazeley St.
4. Consultation over Warwick Bar
OK so this was where we first got an idea of what exactly it might be that we might do for these people. They want to consult key stakeholders about Warwick Bar, both in general and in terms of the specific creative industry needs that the development might meet. We now have a list of people who we need to do walking interviews with. We discussed whether we would need to be more prescriptive about the interviewing process (e.g. confine them to Warwick Bar, tell them to focus on one or two topics), but it was felt that it would be more interesting and revealing if we stuck to the original format, and MADE followed up our work with more focused sedentary interviews.
5. Health and waterways
ISIS seemed quite interested in the idea of doing some research on how people use waterways recreationally, both on the water, and by the water on towpaths. This started as a concern with the ways in whcih Warwick Bar is used, and developed into a discussion about the possibility of a more general nationwide research project. in terms of Warwick Bar, Nick mentioned that Birmingham is Britain's 'canal city'. Recreation and waterways also keys into a load of government research priorities - sustainable transport and climate change, fitness and obesity. ISIS have projects in Manchester that they would be keen to get us involved with too.
There are a number of angles that could be taken on this research, ranging from description of usage to identifying motivations for use, to design issues that may be used to encourage use. Then there are the different user categories, ranging from cyclists and joggers to fishermen and canal boaters. Myself and Phil had a very brief chat afterwards about the possible ways to package the research. A CASE studentship springs to mind, but I felt a more heavyweight project may be possible. Either way, ISIS would be a great partner given the topic. Note to self - email nick sketching some possibilities...
6.What to do for the Lab if we get no funding!
In general, do less for a shorter period of time! I need to talk to Dan about the portraits. Julia rightly commented that these are potentailly very important, as they are like 'a personal invite' to participate further. She also mooted the idea of forming an artists group to liaise with the architects after the lab. It was also suggested that Pam could provide photos of 'urban nature' from around Eastside to project at the lab, and she suggested that we could get groups of kids value mapping around Eastside.
As an aside, the book seemed to go down quite well, which has got to be a good sign too...

**warning: long post coming up**
Those nice people at MADE set up a lunchtime meeting for us to showcase Rescue Geography to practitioners across the region. Just for the record, and because I will undoubtedly lose the piece of paper with people's names on, the people there were:
|
David Tittle |
MADE |
|
Ian Shepherd |
D5 Architects |
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James Evans |
Manchester University |
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Julia Ellis |
MADE |
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Ken Harrison |
Wyre Forest District Council |
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Ken Mossman |
ISIS |
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Mark Kennedy |
Turner & Townsend |
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Pamela Smith |
Botanical Connections |
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Phil Jones |
Birmingham University |
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Richard Trengrouse |
Digbeth Business Association |
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Stephanie Basher |
MADE |
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Vey Straker |
Herefordshire Rural Media |
We started off meeting people (or in the parlance of modern times, 'networking'), which was interesting as I started chatting to Ken Mossman who is project managing ISIS' involvement with the Warwick bar site. As usual when you talk to people at the sharp end you get a different perspective on things, and he was very open and honest about their plans for the area. Much thought had been put into how to move existing industry out of the area to free it up for development, and they appeared to have decided the overall types of uses that they want in the area. The specifics seemed very much up for grabs at this stage, with plans for actual buildings and streetscapes out to tender with architects at the moment.
As well as reminding me what a complicated and multi-staged process development is, this also indicated that there are still many things in the redevelopment that are 'up for grabs' as it were.
Julia then gave a brief intro about MADE and their involvement in / hopes for the project, followed by me and phil doing our usual double act, accompanied by the obligatory powerpoint. Lots of pictures, clear messages about what the project is, and a plea for help in determining what kinds of analysis we should do and how we should present it in order for it to be of any use to the development process.
The talk went down fairly well and I'll try and summarise most of the feedback here, in no particular order than that in which people spoke (I have collated all their comments into one paragraph)...
Joe: liked the way we focused on the experiential element of space, and stated the need to incorporate perceived meanings into the planning system, although he echoed our question about how to make it actually feed into the process... 'regeneration should reinforce rather than obliterate meaning'...nice... He also noted that Michael Parkinson's report on Digbeth which included a range of people's views and memories didn't appear to be being used by Urban Initiatives in their Big Plan for Birmingham. Could RG be brought into dialogue with the Big Plan or other methodologies?
Julia: can the technology make this a generally applicable methodology? She also felt that the visual outputs might make more of an impact and last longer than a 'normal' public consultation, and that the lab in September could keep the work 'alive' in this sense. Really interesting point - she thought that the walking interviews were empowering, as they allow the participant to take control (cf community mapping and local authorities). The overall experiential focus also ties into ideas of 'cultural' sustainability' which is starting to become a priority, as even AWM begin to focus on regional identity.
Vey: the rural media company she works for have remit to empower community through different media, so even though it's rural there is a clear relevance... She liked RG as a way to get buy-in from a community, but felt that it needed to look at the future as well as the past (which is a good point), and explore why people like certain spaces. She told us a little about the Hereford regeneration of the Edgar St. grid, which is a massive area, and expressed some interest in pursuing RG as a possible part of their involvement in the scheme. She also felt that the next stage really needed to consider what exactly about the work is most important in terms of using it for real world applications.
Ken M: noted the problem of timing in terms of when it would feed into a development process - danger of being either too early or too late. In terms of the bigger picture, he noted the link between identity and productivity within the quality of life agenda, and suggested that any way to evidence this would be attractive to local authorities putting together Local Development Frameworks and developers more generally. His take-home message also related to how to use RG to inform design and help get planning permissions. He also suggested a session with their architects and possibly AWM, which would be v. useful.
Ken H: liked the deeper approach, and noted that RG could be used in places that had been 'damaged' (by 60s architecture etc which seemed fairly well received despite Phil's protests), and that these places perhaps need rescuing. Ken also told us about the current consultation occurring in Kidderminster, and we informally arranged to head over there for a walking tour to discuss possible ways in which RG might be used in this consultation process.
Ian: noted the need to capture uniqueness in order to understand what makes a place successful. He also liked the idea of overlaying tracklogs to find where people tend to stop and use space. RG as a way to build up a multi-layered appreciation of space that avoids flattening all meaning. He sounded a note of caution, saying that it would be hard to measure the success of the method, which would be crucial to potential end users.
David: reflected on the actual process from a consultation point of view, and suggested that RG needed to incorporate more dialogue between different groups. For example, he suggested lay and expert knowledges, inter-generational dialogue, male and female, car-user vs. pedestrian and so on. This opens up a whole range of possibilities. In terms of representivity he also suggested an online consultation stage to allow other interested parties to make their views heard. He also made a point about the interpretation of distinctiveness being rather subjective, although it is widely recognised a central to the re-making of place.
So it was all very positive and as usual there are many leads to follow up, but I have run out of steam now as far as this blog is concerned, so will perhaps reflect a little more after our next meeting @ MADE.... which is..... tomorrow morning!
Expect an update soon (ish).
Saturday saw the achievement of (drum-roll, please) the 10th walking interview, which was what we were aiming for (along with the seated and 'double' interviews). In fact, it was a really pleasant day, with 2 interviews recorded within a few hours. I had my doubts about whether the equipment would be up to recording 2 consecutive GPS traces (I worry less about the audio despite the early disaster), but all is quiet at the technical end of the corridor (i.e. Phil's office) so here's hoping....
Now we just need another 3 people to do 'double' interviews (along with 2 who 'owe' me a walking interview - 1 is already arranged) and 7 seated interviews. If you, dear reader, know anyone who could help, it's not too late - and coffee is included.
Progress is also being made on the transcripts. As an early birthday present (or something), Phil bought me a natty piece of kit that means I can play the audio files on the lap-top, controlling the 'play' function with a foot pedal. It's the same as Jon has been using to transcribe - it means you can type and listen at the same time. It also means that transcribing and checking can happen a lot quicker as Jon and I don't have to keep swapping the equipment between us. Plus, I can do it at home in relative peace and quiet - particularly important in the last couple of weeks as they have been resurfacing the car park outside. So, to those of you who have been interviewed: I hope to be in touch soon. Keep checking your in-box (or snail-mail in a couple of cases) for the transcript, then please check it and return it (or comments) to me.
Thanks to all for your help so far.... x
I was never able to keep a diary going longer than 6 weeks, so it's no surprise that I haven't blogged for ages. But don't worry, 'walk 'n talk-ers', work has been progressing. Not as fast as I would have liked (Phil and James, too, no doubt), but progress has been made. Things did take a little while to pick up after Christmas, but eventually some really helpful people got to know about our project and have been encouraging friends and relations to join in.
So, the tally stands at:
Walking interviews - 7 done; 1 arranged.
Sedentary interview - 3 done.
Doubles - 5 completed; 1 to finish (but this does include one walking interview where the PDA failed).
Counting on my fingers tells me that is 17 people interviewed, plus I have 3 more people to contact after Easter. (I don't actually have 17 fingers - I had to take my socks off.)
In other news, I have been receiving a steady stream of interview transcipts from Jon, who is doing a good job of this essential, but slightly tedious task! I am now trying to find time to listen to the recording while checking the transcript for accuracy, trying to remember what was said in the bits we can't hear very well and assessing the noise level. I then go through them a second time to 'smoothe' them slightly - i.e. take out some of the 'ums' and 'errs'. This is potentially controversial as we are trying to reflect what people say about the area. On the other hand, things that make sense verbally look very strange written down, and without hearing the inflection in the voice, meaning may be changed. Also, it seems that few of us (and I was horrified to discover that I am very much included in this, given that talking is one of the key requirements of my job!) can speak in proper sentences!! While the interviews are always fine at the time, all the 'ums' and repetitions while people think of the right word makes following the thread of the conversation difficult - not to mention rather boring. Transcripts are then sent to the interviewee to ensure that they are a correct reflection of what was said - and it also gives the respondent a chance to take out any comments that may have slipped out inadvertently. It doesn't happen very often, but sometimes if we feel comfortable with someone (and I hope you all feel happy being interviewed by me!) we forget that the recorder is running.... Anyway, once I get the OK from the interviewee, I select some of the stories to go on the website, and Phil does something technical which attaches the text to the GPS location et viola! - it appears on the website. Look out after Easter for more....
Well, it keeps me out of mischief.
So, as Easter approaches, I wonder 'where did the time go?' Well, actually, no. I really think - 'yippee, holiday!' Happy Easter, all - I'll be back in a couple of weeks.... xxx
Rescue geography hit the University of Manchester today, with a repeat of last month's seminar for my new (ish now) colleagues. Again I was slightly hesitant presenting something which is very much a 'work in progress', and again there were people in the audience who list GIS amongst their primary research interests (yikes).
But again the response was really positive, with another set of highly thoughtful comments at the end for us to muse upon. I'm going to list them here so that they are recorded somewhere other than my own wetware...
KW suggested that the tension between lived and planned space in the sustainability process was akin to that between use value and exchange value... prompting some interesting thoughts about how the notion of sustainability might be positioned within wider academic debates. This resonated with what Sunand Prashed had said about sustainability needing to be the balance between modernity and tradition last week... Another paper idea to chuck on the back-burner...
He also mentioned Jane Jacobs work on forensic geographies, where she recovers artefacts from a condemned Glaswegian tower block, which really reminded me of the paper I saw a few years ago where a New York artist was trying to capture the sense of place attached to a condemned tenement block. Wish I could remember their name...
CP asked a whole series of questions... luckily for me none of them were technical GIS questions! Must buy him a drink sometime... The one I didn't answer was why we were using Google, an evil multinational company, for something that we want to be public... well I guess the answer is that the public all use Google, so to reach them we must too... there are definitely more issues to go into here though.
NC asked why we didn;t just use maps and draw where we went on them, which made me realise that time is as important as space in terms of this project. We need to know where AND when people say things. Also, despite the teething problems with the equipment, once you get these tracklogged transcripts there are so many things that you can do with them.
MJ pointed out that walking interviews might actually confine or tie the conversation to the surrounding environment, which was something I hadn't considered.
BR and JB (and some others) raised the question about sampling and representativeness, and how this may be a problem if we start feeding 'results' into planning processes.
BR also suggested using the same route for respondents, which would allow for greater comparability. We had considered this, but decided against it, I guess because it would preclude exploration of memories and personal attachments. It did make me think that there are effectively two levels of environmental prompts: there are the purely functional / practical, like noise levels, and then there are the highly subjective, like attachments to place. The project will definitely work on the first level, but how much rigour we can bring to our analysis of the second level is less certain.
The only bad thing was that I seemed to go on for longer this time... Hope I'm not turning into a bore... no really... it keeps me awake at night... perhaps I need help...
So the seminar went really well. Silvia Gullino, the lovely person who had invited me down to speak to them, had organised a really great event, with lunch and a range of people in the audience, including sociologists, GISers, planners and students. Everyone was really friendly and I have to say I got a really good vibe from everyone at the C-SCAIPE research centre there.
So, how did the paper go down? Well I have to say I don't think I've ever had a more positive response to a paper. People seemed genuinely enthused, and had lots of great ideas for how we could proceed with analysis. What's more, Silvia had advertised the talk on various email lists, and I have had about 5 enquiries subsequently asking for copies of our submitted paper (from overseas as well as UK).
Jane has started a contact list in a 'friends of the project' style, and this also seems to be a great idea as we can act as a bit of a hub for this work. Will be nice to meet some of these people at the peripatetic workshop as well, especially with one eye on the follow up 'Son of Rescue Goegs' project...
Anyway, all this has confirmed my suspicion that walking methods are rapidly becoming falvour of the month. When I find the piece of paper that I scribbled down people's suggestions on I'll post them here as well...
Well I haven't found that piece of paper, but i have remembered one particularly interesting suggestion. This was a planner who suggested that developers might be more interested in this sort of thing than planners, as showing sensitivity to a community and an area may give them a competitive advantage in winning tenders for certain parts of developments, like those on lower eastside which are supposed to be creative, sensitive and so on... interesting idea, target develpers instead of planners. After all, people are always saying that they are the ones with all the power...
Realised last night that i am supposed to be presenting a research seminar on the project in two weeks time. When i say 'realised' what i mean is that the organiser emailed me asking for a title and an abstract. mind duly focused.
Working on it today has made me realise what a great project this is... we've got photos, stories, techno-toys, art, labs, videos, walking tours, anecdotes, a strong acadeic rationale, and at least two exciting topics to address.
Rock on.
I'm just hoping now that the bunch of planners i'm presenting to will like it. The 'discussant' for the seminar is a hardcore stats guy - works on the census, say no more. There's no results, and i'm no GISer. Hopefully the pictures will fly, and the mobile methods theory will lend credibility. Will post in a couple of weeks to describe how it all goes...
j
We had a great meeting with some very nice people at MADE last Friday. To continue this blog's general obsession with the weather, it was a very unpleasant day... rain, wind, cold, a full house of fetidness. I had wet feet by the afternoon as we were trying to film outside for part of the morning. Could have picked a better day. We may have to relocate to LA for the next shoot... But I digress...
MADE are a regional version os CABE - into sustainable cities, quality design, community involvement and the such. We've come across lots of their previous work, using artists of various types to uncover hidden aspects of cities and towns. Anyway, they have a really nice office in an old canal masters house in the middle of Eastside, and we had a meeting with Julia and Stef to talk about how they might be able to help us with the project. Stef made me a nice cup of spiced apple tea.

They were really clued up on the creative / artistic / community engagement side of things, while also being embedded in networks with planners and regeneration bods. Both of these things were of great interest to us.
The main things to come out of the discussion were that they could help make our end of project event much more than just a one-off thing. They have two large function rooms on the ground floor, and offered them to us to for the event, which is wicked as we hadn't found anywhere suitable. The rooms are just the right size - about 15'*20'.
Julia suggested that we don't call it an end of project event, but an 'Eastside Laboratory', where we get lots of different groups of people to come in and engage with the project's outputs. She suggested getting the local community in, but also hosting a day for planners and local regen bods to try and get some of the work to feed into policy and masterplannig for the area. We liked that idea. This also made me think about the possibility of getting some follow up funding based around the idea of knowledge transfer... MADE were really into making it policy relevant in some way, so this seemed like a good idea all round.
She also suggested that the lab could run for two weeks to a month, and we could get school kids in too. This would also help them fulfill their educational remit. They also mentioned maybe 'branding' the event for us... god knows... we need some help with our brand...
Funding was also discussed, with reference to the event itslef, and how to facilitate turning some of our outputs into forms of art. Julia suggested that an Arts Council bid between us and them, with three of four named artists including briefs of what work they would do might be a goer. It would also be useful to orient this towards making art relevant to the community and policy makers. She said she might be able to make a few calls and see whether the Arts council people would be receptive to such a suggestion.... Beyond that, it appeared that both the project and MADE might have enough odds and sods floating around in various budgets to make the event happen anyway.
The timing would be critical - in order to prepare as fully as possible, but still fall within the project timeframe, we settled on middle of sept 2008. so we need to put boot to ass in order to get these funding apps in by Easter. Must speak to Dan about it, he wrote us something that would be appropriate for the arts council bid a few months ago - need to find out whether he has done anything with it yet.
The details of what exactly to do in the lab were discussed, although no firm decisions were made. Consensus was that it needs to involve ICT, and be interactive, although this would mean that tehcnical support would have to be available. It would also need to 'be done right' in order to have a positive impact.
Stef mentioned something called mediascapes:
http://www.mscapers.com/home
Their description of a mediscape reads as follows:
"A mediascape is a collection of media fragments
associated with
positions in space. You experience the media fragments
as you walk
around the space."
http://www.mscapers.com/home
the software can be used on a GPS handheld device as far
as we can ascertain, and we were all excited about the
possibilities of using some of our outputs in this
way... further investigation needed though.
Anyway, it was only an hour and a half, but we covered a lot of ground. We were singing from the same hymnsheet (as it were) and it really felt like we had something to offer them and vice versa. if only all meetings were as pleasant and productive. Stef even offered to introduce Jane to some of the hidden parts of digbeth. cool.
then it was back out into the rain...
Welcome back everyone - and especially the bold interviewee who came out with me this morning on a (shortened) walk around the Warwick Bar area! The monsoon-type rain made us think twice, but as it seemed to be easing we went out anyway.
Yes, it was wet - it turns out that my expensive raincoat doesn't withstand Midlands monsoons at all! - but two interesting points were noted:
1) We do need weather like this in order to assess if it has an effect on walking interviews!! We went, but I am assured that it was a shorter walk than if it had been dry.
2) It was really peaceful once we left the main roads - after a couple of weeks of peace and quiet chez Jane, I was really noticing the heavy traffic in the centre of the city. However, once we got into smaller streets and along the canal, it was really quiet, with the rain damping down the traffic noise and keeping most (sensible) pedestrians at home.
A big THANK YOU to all of the people who have helped out with 'Rescue Geography' so far - academics who have shared papers, presentations and words of encouragement, people at Central Library who have helped with finding old photos, Dan who is hopefully taking lots of new photos, people who have helped to 'spread the word' about the project and, above all, the interviewees who have told me fascinating stories about the past, present and future of Digbeth/ Deritend/ Eastside.
A very Merry Christmas to you all!!
I have just finished the last interview before the holidays, so the final tally of interviews in the first third of the project is:
Walking interviews - 4 completed, 1 arranged (as before)
Traditional, sedentary interviews - 1
'Double' interviews (sedentary, then walking) - 2 completed, 1 in progress, 1 to be arranged
So that's 10 people
,
another 20 to find
!!!
It's been a while since there was an update on this page, so sorry if you have been trying to follow our progress - it's actually been quite good recently! I've managed six interviews in the last couple of weeks and would be out now if the battery in the GPS 'bleeper' hadn't failed this morning.
After the last appeal for more women to come forward and talk to me, I've interviewed ... one! But have arranged to speak to another in the new year. So, the current interview situation is:
Walking interviews - 4 completed, 1 arranged
Traditional, sedentary interviews - 0 (given the choice between these and walking interviews, no-one wants to do these - well, they don't capture the imagination quite the same, do they!), but I'm hoping to arrange one soon
'Double' interviews (sedentary, then walking) - 1 completed, 2 in progress, 1 to be arranged
So, that's 9 (or possibly 10) respondents out of the hoped-for 30! Not bad, but it does mean that there will be more of a sense of urgency when we all come back after Christmas.
Anyone hoping for a hint of the likely results will be disappointed, though. I am currently veering between having complete confidence in the improved results that come from a walking interview and being absolutely impressed by the thoroughness of the sedentary interviewees. In true academic style, the answer so far is - 'more work needs to be done'!! (Never mind the PhD, it's coming up with answers like this that prove your credentials!!). I can report, though, that so far all the interviews have been really, really different. I have heard views from people who look at the area through artistic eyes, through having spent childhoods and teenage years there and through having worked with disadvantaged people. Many stories have had happy associations, a few have highlighted how the area has been/ can be a place of fear - sometimes it's difficult to imagine the infinite variety of meanings that a place has! This is perhaps not very surprising, but certainly makes 'data gathering' (doesn't that sound a poor turn of phrase, given the rich variety of stories I have actually been recording!) an absolute pleasure. Analysis may well be another matter, but I am really looking forward to getting the corrected transcripts back in order to see what is really going on, rather than replying on my (fading) impressions of the interviews.
On the technology side, everything has acted up at some point, but has mostly been well-behaved (especially when switched on, charged up, etc). As the maps on the interview pages show, the GPS signal has been a bit inaccurate. It gives the impression of us walking straight through (or maybe over!) buildings and magically jumping from street to street, especially in the northern corner of Digbeth. Maybe it's something to do with the power of the Bullring, atmospherics in outer space, or a lack of power left in the GPS unit. We'll see on the next walk....
I've just arranged my fifth interview and noticed that only men have been volunteering to be interviewed! While they have all been very interesting, this is surely not going to give us a very balanced view of Digbeth and Deritend.
Or is it?
Are these areas 'for men'?
Don't you ladies visit anywhere here?
I know some of you do because I've seen you working in cafes and other businesses and providing support services. So, come on girls, tell me what you think about the places and spaces of Digbeth/ Deritend/ Eastside.
As the only girl on this project, I'd really like to talk to you.
Don't let the Spice Girls' message be in vain - let's see a bit of 'Girl Power'!
Of course, some chips would have cheered us up while we were walking round Eastside in the rain, preferably from Deritend fish & chips because:
1) they're nice; and
2) the chip shop is half way up the hill, so you get some exercise which means you are allowed a few chips!
Can't lose!
Oh dear....
It all started so well.
A really interesting interview with a respondent who spoke clearly, made fascinating observations and was thoughtful about his own place in Eastside.
Our aim of assessing walking interviews was also given a boost, as it appeared to me that the beginning and end of the interview 'proper' were even more blurred than usual. I usually chat to interviewees while setting up the equipment (although that used to mean a tape recorder - this project really has Equipment!), and we usually chat afterwards. Frequently, this is when the really good observations are made!! However, with a 'normal' interview there is a kind of formal ending, usually with me giving the respondent a chance to ask questions or make any other comments. In this case, though, the whole interview had been more of a chat and before we reached the end of the walk, my respondent was asking me questions about the project and my own academic background - something that usually happens 'afterwards', off-tape. Does this prove the increased informality of the walking interview - and, therefore, its value where informality is particularly useful? Or is it a one-off, dependent on the character of this one interviewee????
Yes, very interesting!
But...
It rained! And we discovered that bad weather doesn't put off all respondents!
And...
(Future employers look away now!)
The audio recording failed!! Yes, I confess, I
hate anything more technical than a tape recorder, and
my relationship with them has been fraught on occasion!
It may have been the rain, gremlins in the machinery-
or, more probably, I didn't turn it on properly.
Still, this interviewee did want to be anonymous
,
although probably not to the extent of silence....
So, learning points:
1) just looking at the weather forecast isn't enough - sometimes it is correct and you have to act on it!
2) double-check everything....
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Jane's quite right, I have been busy playing with techno things.
The website has been given a bit of a facelift, now that we actually have some research materials collected to put on it. It's still quite basic in terms of its underlying structure and appearance, but that doesn't much matter - at least it's a bit clearer to navigate now.
One of the philosophical things underpinning this project is the commitment to making the data publicly available/sharable. This has traditionally been a bit tricky with GIS (mapping) data, but there are a number of tools out there now which make things a lot easier. Hence on the webpage now in the 'interviews' section you can have a look at maps showing where Jane walked with the participants, based on the sat nav (GPS) tracks recorded at the time. At some point relatively soon we'll start adding extracts from the transcripts as well - Jane's just checking over the great work that one of the Department's postgrads has done in transcribing interviews recorded in a noisy urban environment. Incidentally, a bit of fiddling with the output levels from the mics and it has to be said that we've managed to get some amazingly high quality recordings - even with buses blasting past on Heath Mill Lane.
The maps on the webpage are based on Google Maps. Okay, here's the geeky bit (well, this is supposed to be a record of how we actually do the research). First I took the GPS tracks into ArcGIS - the hardcore mapping software we're using. Then I converted the 'point' files, where the GPS records the location every 10 seconds, and made them into polylines - basically joining the dots. These I exported as KML files - this is a file format used to exchange spatial data on the web, it's a bit like HTML in that it's a text file with a series of codes in it indicating, for example, where to put a dot on a map. You can open KML files directly into Google Earth, but I wanted to try and embed some maps into the web page I'm making for each interview we do. If you make KML files (and many cheap sat nav boxes can record location tracks as KML for you to download onto your computer) you can open them within Google Maps (go to Google and click 'maps'). If you put those KML files on your website, you can get Google to generate some HTML code that you can put in your own webpages which will embed the map into your page.
Simple.
Well, okay, not hugely simple. It's a bit of a faff, but it means you can share all kinds of spatial data with people who don't have sophisticated GIS software themselves and without having to spend tens of thousands of pounds on specialist GIS web servers and licences to use Ordnance Survey data - you just put your data on top of Google's maps.
So that's what I was up to this afternoon. Most of the days when you end the day thinking "I've earned my money today" you've been doing something really tedious. It's nice when you've been doing something interesting and still get that feeling.
Oh and we've put links up to photos we've got from our interviewees that are being hosted on Flickr if you want to have a look. That's the strange thing about the web these days, you don't really need a lot of storage space yourself - you can make use of other sites and simply link all the data together. Which is kind of what Web 2.0 is really about.
Yes, even though it was Saturday, a researcher's work is never done - well, that's not quite true, but this sounds more interesting!
Another fascinating walking interview discovering new streets and old histories. One place I have visited is St Basil's in Heath Mill Lane. (Soap box alert!) NB, make sure you support St. Basil's Big Sleep Out/ Sleep In (I particularly like the 'Sleep In' for those of us who have a choice about such things and like our beds) on November 30th! In talking to people who have become homeless or reading the Big Issue, I am often struck by how easy it is to lose one's home, so help prevent youth homelessness by supporting St Basil's. (Down off the soap box and back to the interview!)
As I was saying, another fascinating walk round in (fortunately) unremarkable weather and some amazingly quiet streets - away from the main roads and the Gigbeth events. I learnt about 'Dirty Deritend' not necessarily being a derogitory comment, more a factual observation, given the animals, etc. Also, while most of the stories told related to within a lifetime, right at the end we talked about the Civil War history of Birmingham. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there....
I still need people to talk to - not all have to do a walk. I would like to do some 'normal' interviews, too, just sitting down (perhaps with a coffee - milk, half a sugar, please). So if you have been following the blog or seen the leaflets and have ANY link with Eastside (living, working, now, in the past) do get in touch.
Yes, the inaugural walking interview has been conducted! Hooray!!
The sun was shining, it was dry and not too windy or cold. This isn't just the British obsession with the weather, it may turn out to be significant in getting people to walk and talk with us - stay tuned for the final verdict in a couple of months time....
The talking bit was really interesting. This is why I wanted to join this project - to find out people's stories and histories. What this building used to be, why it is special to someone, what happened here. My mind is still putting together the stories and places.
Then, an unexpected thing happened (although that says more about me separating work and personal lives) - we stopped to talk to someone else. An old photograph had been promised, as my interviewee had links with the building now occupied by someone else. It was a really interesting few minutes for all of us, plus it demonstrates perfectly the community that some say doesn't exist in Eastside. No community? Well, I saw some today!
In fact two unexpected things happened - the other was the photographs that I was given. We have permission to use them in our project so I expect they will appear hereabouts before long (but that's technical, so I'm not doing it!). Those photos, plus the links with our photographer friend, Dan, and the archives at Birmingham Central Library look really promising for this project being an important local record.
One complaint, though - the bag with the equipment in is really heavy! I hope our project has a budget for massage or physiotherapy.... On the other hand, I really didn't notice it when we were actually doing the walking and talking - testament to how interesting it was.
Finally, are walking interviews worth doing? On the evidence of one interview - yes! I think that we followed a route that had been thought out beforehand, but still there was an occasion when we looked at a building "while we are here", so we did see things that were prompted by our being out and about.
Sadly, tomorrow's interview has been cancelled for now because of illness, but if anyone reading this thinks it looks like fun - it is! Get in touch, we still need people to talk to us.
Now, Phil's got all the techno-stuff to play with, so time for coffee.
Where's that footstool gone?
Yes, I see them in my sleep - those green leaflets saying "WANTED: Tales, stories and histories about Digbeth, Deritend and Eastside!" Many of them are now loitering around the said areas, in cafes, pubs and, hopefully, in homes. Electronic versions are also circulating in the ether.
And - joy! - a couple of offers of help have come in! Two interviews have been arranged for next week and I'm waiting for another couple to get back to me, so its not-quite-panic-stations-but-slightly-stressing. Will the technology work? Will we be able to hear the recording? Will people turn up? If they do, will they speak? Well, yes, apart from the techno bits, I've done this before - people do usually turn up (eventually) and even the shy ones end up talking. After all, this is the best bit of the research process - actually meeting people - and I promise that it is fun for the interviewees, too. It's not often that people really do want you to talk about yourself, is it!
So, if you have read the leaflet, come and take one of us on a guided walk around Eastside. We only need another 28 people! It'll be fun - and good exercise.
blogging, that is.
As Co-Investigator on this project, and having been suitably shamed into action by my co-workers enthusiasm for this blogging malarkey, I though it was about time something went on here from me. To be fair I have just moved jobs to uni of Manc, and the task of setting up and running a new Masters course in a completely new dept has eaten up the time somewhat.
So first impressions of how the project is going:
there's lots of potential for collaboration with other people working in, on and around Eastside. My long time friend Dan is a photographer who is working on social aspects of community in the area and has produced some amazing shots of 'life' as it unfolds in the pubs and streets of Digbeth. Having known Dan for ages and really loving his work the potential of working together is exciting.
playing with all this technical equipment is going to raise a helluva lot of practical issues... as the others have been noting, even something as simple as recording outside, whether it is ambient noise or voices, is fraught with difficulties. The issues raised by 10 mins in the quad at birmingham uni last week with a noise-meter could probably provide enough material for a 'how to' methods paper. (NB, no ones's saying that this would be an interesting paper. but it would be a paper nevertheless, and I'm sure there was something in the proposal about methods;)
Finally, now i have a mere 3 hours a day to kill on the train i have been able to do some reading around the new 'mobilities paradigm' and the associated field of 'mobile methodologies' within the social sciences. I was initially excited by the possibilities of using the project to explore nomadic ethics (a la Braidotti), and the difference that moving makes to people's experience of space. The literature I have read so far has totally underwhelmed me, as it does the classic geography trick of identifying yet another 'overlooked' object of study (in this case, mobile communities) and then applying all the same conceptual approaches to them. nothing really new there from what i can see.... and yes I am a whinging git... we'll read some more and see whether it really does lead anywhere other than the emporer's new clothes.
so there you have it my first ever blog. I have crumbled and joined the blogging generation. before you know it there'll be pictures and everything.
This is evans, blogging off.

Much as I love the office-based part of research (especially on a rainy day like today!), it was a real treat to get out yesterday and start meeting people! Two important things came out of my foray into Eastside:
1) I managed to find my way to a specific place! Don't laugh - lots of geographers are very bad at this. Being a rural geographer originally, I have no problem with good old OS maps in remote countryside, but maps of urban areas are often really hard to follow especially if you're on foot. One-way streets and other things useful for drivers aren't as important as whether you can get through the end of a dead end street, where the foot bridge is or where - exactly - you can cross the park.
2) I was reminded how easy it is to slip into 'dualisms' - where something is either 'this' or 'that'. I visited two people yesterday - one who works in and with the community and one who works in one of the newer buildings in Eastside. It's so tempting to think that these buildings, which may have replaced historic, loved places are frequented by people who couldn't care less, but, of course, this is completely wrong. The person I visited is very interested in, and takes care to support, local businesses and services. She is as passionate about the local community as the rest of us.
Anyway, the search for people to interview has begun....
Can I just say that plenty of work is going on?!! As someone new to the project, (and who didn't even know that much of this kit even existed!) there has been a lot of reading and learning to do. In case Phil is giving the impression that this is just a project about playing with techno-toys, I have been catching up with the literature about getting 'out there' to talk to people, the use of computer technology 'in the 'field' and putting people back into GIS. Hopefully, I can read something interesting soon.... (Didn't mean it, Phil!) Other things to follow up are about the study area itself - hello to Digbeth and Deritend - and community type studies. It's great to see that what we are doing has hardly been touched on before.
You may gather that I like the people-based stuff more, but I have to admit that walking round with the computer and GPS thingy yesterday was very interesting, and I'm really looking forward to going out and getting on with the real work of walking and talking....